Wemix Contest Q&A #5: Mr. Nice Guy / GryN

January 22, 2009

From Mr. Nice Guy: I have been through a lot over the past ten years, and I am at the point where I am looking to get my foot into the door.  Can you examine me, my abilities, my band GryN (www.myspace.com/GryNpa), and some of the videos I have created to express my form of art?  What are my strengths, and what are my weaknesses? I know it’s a lot to ask, but I am confident that if you give me the attention, you will not have wasted your time.

Firstly, the music is cool, kinda a neo-reggae or ska sound mixed with some modern alternative rock…but I’d rather talk about how you’re meeting new fans.

It may be obvious, but a lot of new artists miss an obvious step: when thinking about where you’re promoting online and offline, go where fans will most likely be. Promote RELENTLESSLY in a large variety of places where they listen to something similar. What well-known band’s fans might like you guys: Sublime? Flobots? Jack Johnson? Aquabats? No Doubt? I’m not saying you guys sound like those other bands, but there is definitely enough of a connection that you should go to all of their message boards, make some friends, and let people know you exist.

When you play shows (which you should) make sure to record them, put your best song(s) up online, and show your new friends and fans where they are.

Also…my first impression was that the name is a little weird (sorry). Maybe there’s a great story behind Gryn / GryNpa, but nonetheless. I’d say that might be something you want to think about🙂 Once you settle on a name and build a fanbase, changing the name is a difficult task, and can potentially cost you a lot of fans. Get the best name and stick with it.

Lastly, there’s no bio on the front of the myspace page! You’ve got to have one. People want to know who you guys are, and what you’re about. Is there a bigger message or story behind you guys personally that will enhance my experience with the music and group? Keep your bio succinct, compelling, and to-the-point.

Hope that’s helpful. By the way, you’ve got a lot of content on there already. Good songs and videos, so you’re off to a great start. And to any other artists who are reading: these things are definitely bases you should have covered. Make sure you do, and move on from there.

mike

mike

28 Comments

  1. MrNiceGuyKeith on January 26, 2009 at 5:53 am

    It’s Keith, Mr. Nice Guy, the guy from the wemix contest and that this blog was written to. First, I wanted to thank you Mike, for taking time and giving me a look, listen, and honest opinion. Your advice is much appreciated, & believe it or not, actions I have been currently preparing. I am flattered by the comparisons. I am also the producer, video editor and director. There will be more videos available shortly. Visit http://www.youtube.com/keithmng or http://www.myspace.com/GryNpa. I hope that the people in this forum will go check into my work. The bio is coming, the marketing, and your advice will be taken. GryN, pronounced grin. is what you do when you hear the truth. ThanX again Mike… m.N.g.

  2. nillp on January 24, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    i’m not a big fan of this kind of music.. but i could see that he’s pretty talented!

    weird names? Gryn / GryNpa FTW! ;x

    but as you said, maybe it has a really good history behind it..

    anyway. really good advices.. i’m sure that if he try to make all of them happen, he’s really going to gain lots of new fans and keep the ones he has..

    good luck to him~

    take care; mk’nil ♥

  3. Madlen on January 24, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Myspace is definitely one of the most reliable places to promote your music…though I’m not really happy with it sometimes it’s a fact:)The idea about other bands forums is really great…make new friends,find new fans:D

  4. rockermeg on January 24, 2009 at 9:20 am

    That’s A LOT of great advice Mike🙂
    Yeahh, that name isn’t the strongest point but the music is very interesting
    God Mike you’re too good to us
    Thanks for the amazing advice!
    xxx

  5. zahra on January 24, 2009 at 5:32 am

    hhhhmmmmmm…i don’t want to lose hope for that band but they don’t look anywhere near getting anywhere!!!!…lol…but i loved the answer u had 4 the…i hope they change the name!!…lol

  6. APHELION on January 23, 2009 at 10:47 am

    You have been banned for the following reason:

    Same person as GAURDA

    Date the ban will be lifted: Never

  7. tpbarbosa on January 23, 2009 at 10:12 am

    I really like so much Mike when you answer your fans questions, but unfortanely til today you never answered mine.
    Well, like I said before I was trying to record a demo, but I dunno if it’s better record just one genre of music (my favorite and what I’ll want to play) or with different genres (maybe to not turn it into something boring). Plus I write my own lyrics, and I wanted you to post some cool sites or direct me to some people who could maybe help me a bit. Cause I don’t know if they are good enough to become musics. By the way, I’m still promoting LP in some band forums, like posting news and stuff like it, hope there isn’t any problem. Peace. Talytha.

  8. Kalini on January 23, 2009 at 9:17 am

    “Promote RELENTLESSLY in a large variety of places”, that’s what we call Agressive Marketing. HAHA! Very well said, Mike! Yes, that’s exactly the case, a new artist should promote his music to the audience of popular artists who do similar music. I don’t think the name of the artist is so important. The important thing is if he feels comfortable with the name. Because, as you already said, he’ll have to stay with that name for a very long time, without being able to change it. Otherwise he’d lose too many fans. The bio is definately advisable. Good response, Mike! KK

  9. sasummsumm on January 23, 2009 at 9:03 am

    hey mister nice guy😀 i like your music very much…it is not the standard reaggea thing but little more special groove to it…^^ really cool mix i must say!

    yeah the name is strange but something special like the music i think

    it is like linkin park mike^^…just listen to the music and let it define what’s behind the name😛

  10. Lynnie on January 23, 2009 at 5:42 am

    ‘Also…my first impression was that the name is a little weird (sorry)…’
    As analoggirl said – ‘what is in a name?’ And at the risk of sounding rude (not my intention, I swear), but when you’re heading a band named after a misspelt park, can you honestly comment on that? Lol. I like your honesty and how you haven’t pussy-footed around it, but the name thing I will have to disagree with you on – I think Gryn sounds cool. And as long as a band is any good, does a name really matter? Personally, I say not. It’s only a way of identifying with who made the music to begin with. But then, you’re the ‘expert’, I guess.
    ~
    IT IS LESS THAN 700 CHARACTERS! Stupid!
    ~
    Lynnie

  11. msgirl on January 23, 2009 at 4:03 am

    YEPP….actually name is important….🙂 GRYN is little weird name..but the linkin park is woooww…:)everytime i say linkin park,mike shinoda,chester bennington,fort minor,joe hahn,brad delson,rob bourdon,dave?(hmm..i think phoenix is better.) i get energy…:) kkkk….:) hey!mikey! please!wish me a luck!tomorrow i am gonna take my biggest exam in my life!🙂🙂🙂 if i pass that,i will make my first step to go to US..:) see u…:) wish me a luck! and have a nice day!

  12. redwoman on January 23, 2009 at 2:15 am

    well, if I should ever remember to myself WHY I love you so much posts like this one are the answer, I mean …you’re so damnly perfect, flawless, so helpful. Thank you Mike

  13. SusieB on January 22, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Mike, these are some of my favorite posts on your blog (these and when you’ve introduced me to some amazing new music!). I love your dedication to your fans and to your art. It’s fantastic that you are so interested in helping up-and-coming artists make themselves heard, and I love that you go so far out of your way to help others out. The fact that you are capable of doing such amazing work, all while staying so real to yourself and your craft and, most importantly, to your fans, is beyond impressive to me. You are a model to other artists out there, keep up the great work!

  14. analoggirl on January 22, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    What’s in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet… but would it sell as much? haha
    (The Bard might be “the greatest writer in the English language,” but a marketer he was not.)

    An interesting read, as always.

  15. soyuneik on January 22, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Thanks Mike!! Ha, yea names are important. Thats why the “Y” is coming out my name. (too many people mispronounced it as “soy”)

  16. MrSAI on January 22, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Hey Mike, sorry it’s off-topic but I just found a huge load of photos of LP from August 2000… http://media.unearthed.org/search.php?sST=Linkin%20Park&sDT=20000708

    P.S. Are you playing the Reading or Leeds festivals this year?😛

  17. ShadowerLiltani on January 22, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Wonderful advice, very helpful indeed. Raises a question that’s been on my mind for a while. What would you suggest for someone who doesn’t feel totally comfortable approaching/promoting to strangers offline and online, and no matter how enthusiastic I am with my friends, they never show any initiative to get on board and help. I know that being a writer is a little bit different from what you are used to, but I keep coming here for advice since I really don’t have many people in my corner right now. Not even my parents are willing to support my book. Besides, you are married to a writer🙂 If you could get back to me on this, you have no idea how much I’d appreciate it.

  18. HMF on January 22, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Wow, gr8 advice!!

  19. Jaclyn on January 22, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Nice to read interesting stuff again! The funny thing is that when i was asked by a friend how to promote their band on myspace, i gave exact the same advice ))) coz i’ve noticed that the bands who send requests for me, find me on music myspaces that’s of the same style as they are. The advice about the name of the band is pretty cool. I think that the name is to be easy to shout out, also to shout out for ppl who are not english speaking, so Hybrid Theory was tongue breaking name :)) To record shows is always useful, you never know when you need them and there are a lot of fans who like to collect every shit of their fave band. If you become famous, your very first gigs will be priceless.

  20. MS_Ineedyou on January 22, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    That was good advice !! I agree with Skyolker, you guys (Linkin Park) have a great connection with the fans !!🙂

  21. pepper on January 22, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    It boogles my mind that in todays world and industry, an artist of Mike’s caliber cares so much about his fans!!! So incredible, I love it. Fantastic advice Mike, it applies to a lot of us and definitely helps!
    BTW
    just joined the LPU yesterday, absolutely LOVIN it and mmmm cookies hahaha fantastic! 26 lettaz may be my new favorite song lolololol😄

  22. SkyOlker on January 22, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Good advice about fans and website. That’s what I like about Linkin Park – good connection with their fans!

  23. NoMoreSorrowGirl on January 22, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Got a great advice from Prof. Shinoda upthere…@ YOURCONSCIENCE I was thinking that too!hahaha!…and how weird is the name Linkin Park when I first heard it!…hahaha!take care you guys!…love yah:))

  24. Curiosa on January 22, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Great advice Mike. What advice would you give someone in order to avoid the Holly Brook’s current situation. Apparently Holly’s email list disappeared during her move from MSR. (sure it disappeared) Anyway, she’s currently working on a new album & would like to contact her fans.

    Here’s a link if anyone would like to sign up to receive updates from her.
    http://www.reverbnation.com/hollybrook?add_email=true

    Thanks Mike.🙂

  25. cuz on January 22, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Those tips are really helpful. Thanks for spending your time caring about us🙂

  26. YourConscience on January 22, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    “…changing the name is a difficult task, and can potentially cost you a lot of fans.”

    wonders how many fans Hybrid Theory lost when they became Linkin Park

    Awesome advice, Mike. I think a lot of people who come to your blog will find this useful, even if it’s seemingly common sense/obvious steps to take. Sometimes people just need reminders, I suppose. =)

  27. Joie on January 22, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Wow that’s really helpful for the new artists!!! Thanks

  28. Bajannez on January 22, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Thank you for the advice Mike, I’m also in a band, very nice to get some advice from a real pro🙂

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